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Sep 9 10 7:13 AM
Lisker wrote: only heard about it from guys like Bill O'Reilly talking about it being reverse racist, and how many have actually watched it?
Do the math. Instead of someone with the last name Rodriguez telling the tale of noble, sympathetic Hispanics victimized by white American southern rednecks — all of whom are portrayed as murderous racists, what if we had a white filmmaker telling the tale of noble and sympathetic Texas border ranchers victimized by marauding, racist, gold-toothed unwashed Mexicans out to steal their land? Oh, and we would close our story with a stand-up-and-cheer race war where Texas ranchers unite to violently mow down evil Mexicans.
what if we had a white filmmaker telling the tale of noble and sympathetic Texas border ranchers victimized by marauding, racist, gold-toothed unwashed Mexicans out to steal their land? Oh, and we would close our story with a stand-up-and-cheer race war where Texas ranchers unite to violently mow down evil Mexicans.
For the record, I believe in the American melting pot. My wife was born in Mexico, English is her second language, and she didn’t become an American citizen until she was in her twenties. For that reason, and others, my family is more racially diverse than the bus passengers in “Speed.” So I guess that what I’m really trying to say is, fuck you Robert Rodriguez.
jacklarson1234 1p · 2 days agoThe film itself was simply an attack upon the American people disguised as entertainment. Much of the iconography and sloganeering coming from the side of the Mexicans is right out of reality, while the slogans and rhetoric coming from the Americans was intentionally distorted. For example, the Americans in the movie were depicted as racist brutes who view Mexicans as "cockroaches".This movie also attacks the American woman directly. (Unless we are to believe that Lindsey Lohan is a typical American woman). The message here is: American women are decadent and amoral. This stood out in sharp contrast to how the Mexican women were portrayed: as tough, powerful, wise revolutionaries. The American (white) women were lazy and relied on servants for everything, while the Mexican women could all fight, cook, kill, and outsmart the government. (I should point out that the white American men were incestuous greedy pigs, as opposed to the honorable hard working immigrants who were being oppressed.)The movie was solidly against the US Government, referred to as "The Boss." In context, a group of men who were beaten down with weed-whackers discussed whether or not to blame their attackers. They absurdly argued that they should "sympathize" with their attackers because it's not them, but "The Boss" who is the real problem. There was a constant use of peer pressure throughout the film which relates to this anti-government demagoguery. For instance, there is scene where two chefs, one Hispanic one White, are talking and the Hispanic states that he doesn't think the illegal immigrants should be granted amnesty. The White one calls the Hispanic a "p****" for not exhibiting racial loyalty to the illegal immigrants.The message is clear: If you are a Hispanic American and you aren't in favor of illegal immigration for Mexicans, then you are a "p****."The most ironic thing about the movie is that it elevates the drug cartels to a cool, "Sopranos"-esque kind of gangster clique, while presenting minutemen as immigrant murdering sociopaths. In fact, the head of the drug cartel commits an "honor suicide" at the end. (The last time I checked the headlines, it was the drug cartels who were butchering and oppressing the illegal immigrants. Where is the "honor" in that?)Some apologists will call the film "exploitation" or "just a movie" and leave it at that. However, as anyone who has studied the history of propaganda and the public relations industry knows, there is no such thing as "just a movie" when we consider demographics, timing, and context. I firmly believe in the freedom of speech and gladly paid to see the film but I would be remiss if I didn't address what is probably the most blatant and gratuitous racial agit-prop since "Birth of a Nation":
So, I'm from Mexico, saw the film , liked it and i still like USA by Second_Lives 21 hours ago (Wed Sep 8 2010 08:43:13) Ignore this User | Report Abuse ReplyUPDATED Wed Sep 8 2010 08:44:15So the whole kinda uprising of Mexicans goes out the window and the propoganda thingy of hating whitey does too...I saw the MOVIE as a MOVIE...nothing more and nothing less. Now critizing the film as Rodriguez fan and a film the movie does lose pacing halfway trough it....the climax at the end was all over the place and the ending was a letdown. However,the movie itself was filled with moments so worthy of being classics, the title sequence being one of them also the hospital scene. For every good moment in the movie there was a bad one such as Machete going over Fahey's house and getting jiggy with her wife and daughter although a classic and tremendous moment quite pointless. I may continue rambling but my point is this...this movie rocks!!!Not great, not perfect...but a solid rock em sock em mexplotation flick.P.S. This film did not offend me... I laughed at all the jokes and the exagerated ideas I just went along with it. I do not understand why people take this all too seriously. I cannot imagine what must they be going trough with their lives to post such angry and racial comments.
PostalMonk 20 hours ago (Wed Sep 8 2010 11:25:54) Ignore this User | Report Abuse ReplyThose who are offended by "Machete" are likely to be those who want to find offensive things in it. There was something I found offensive in it, too, but nothing serious enough to bitch about. There are too many people in the world who are always looking for something to complain about. Maybe they look for offensive things in movies and on TV because they want to find meaning in their lives.
Aren't Italians considered Hispanic? by sonwitch101Italians like Robert DeNiro, Ray Romano, the entire cast of Jersey Shore, ect. They don't look exactly white. A lot of them look short and dark, so they are not exactly anglo.
Nut Job John Nolte Confuses "The Black List" With The UntalentedSomeone sent me a rather insane screed by this guy, John Nolte, who tries to keep right-wing hope alive at "Big Hollywood," Andrew Breitbart's silly site. ("Want to hear why the #2 box office film this week is going to get your daughter raped by Commies? Click Here!")