Lisker wrote:
only heard about it from guys like Bill O'Reilly talking about it being reverse racist, and how many have actually watched it?

None, they're all clairvoyant and can predict the entire plot of the movie just from looking at chilling stills like this.
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/09/07/will-texas-taxpayers-reward-racist-anti-american-machete/
(What I often find hilarious is how the man writing these articles looks exactly as you'd imagine him to be.
A fat angry White man. image )
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DAMN THAT'S RACIST!
Although if you actually have a functioning brain you would notice that most of the scenes in Machete actually pay tribute to Conan.
http://www.rehupa.com/images/lancers_conan_conqueror_painting.jpg
Even the story reads like a typical Conan plot. Conan wanders into random town. Conan take job for money. Conan get double crossed. Conan survived.
Conan gets his revenge. YOU JUST FUCKED WITH WRONG CIMMERIAN! Just replace Conan & Cimmerian with Machete & Mexicans and you basically have the same exact plot set up.



Do the math. Instead of someone with the last name Rodriguez telling the tale of noble, sympathetic Hispanics victimized by white American southern rednecks — all of whom are portrayed as murderous racists, what if we had a white filmmaker telling the tale of noble and sympathetic Texas border ranchers victimized by marauding, racist, gold-toothed unwashed Mexicans out to steal their land? Oh, and we would close our story with a stand-up-and-cheer race war where Texas ranchers unite to violently mow down evil Mexicans.


Wow I must have seen the wrong movie. The Machete I saw only had about three White racists (Deniro, Fahes, Don.) at the most and one racist group of vigilantes that were inspired by the real life minutemen.
Out of the three, only Don Johnson was portrayed as a red neck.
Deniro & Fahes would both portrayed as intelligent politician types.
Deniro's character is racist but he's such a slime ball dirty politician that he was actually playing both the minutemen and the Mexicans.
Fahes character (Who should've been the main villain imo.) was a pure capitalist since all of his motivations was towards money.

Actually it's later revealed that he just wanted to impress his daughter Lindsey LOLhan, who never took him seriously. It's implied that Fahes has an incest desire for his daughter.
Now this could be considered a jab at rednecks but Machete makes out with Jessica Alba's character at least two times in the film. It's implied that Alba could be Machete's daughter.

I like how he has to point out that Robert's surname is Hispanic.
SO what? He's a WHite Hispanic. What's the fucking difference?
Oh yeah that's right the MASTER RACE are so insecure that everybody who's not of the MASTER RACE is a fucking threat to their sanctuary.

what if we had a white filmmaker telling the tale of noble and sympathetic Texas border ranchers victimized by marauding, racist, gold-toothed unwashed Mexicans out to steal their land? Oh, and we would close our story with a stand-up-and-cheer race war where Texas ranchers unite to violently mow down evil Mexicans.


Try practically every single Cowboy vs Indian Western and 80's Action film ever made.
Even the Expendables had a plot where a merc crew exterminates some one dimensional latinos just to save one Latina.
See that's not racist, they did it all for the Latina.

Well actually even this big hollywood douche claims that he has a token Mexican wife.
It's okay to claim war brides just as long as you kill all the men.

For the record, I believe in the American melting pot. My wife was born in Mexico, English is her second language, and she didn’t become an American citizen until she was in her twenties. For that reason, and others, my family is more racially diverse than the bus passengers in “Speed.” So I guess that what I’m really trying to say is, fuck you Robert Rodriguez.

Racially diverse my ass. This is similar to that whole "I'm part Indian or some shit somewhere down the line in my ancient bloodline" crap that I hear from folks sometimes. I say fuck that, I have the most racially diverse fam of all time and we even have 3 centuries worth of inbreeding between the Chinese & Spaniards on my mother's side. (The two highest classed ethnicities in Philipines.)
Beat that motherfuckers. We still have a lot of full blown White peeps in my family tree as well and whatever fuck it. Fucking American far right republicans have to be the most paranoid asses I ever heard of.
Although it must truly be a commonality of the right because they have been propagating wild ass conspiracies since the dawn of time. (Though earliest examples I can think of is when religion came into the mix.)
Only thing we don't have in our family tree is Middle Eastern.
Note: I don't hate Expendables at all & I've seen that film 8 fucking times already. I'm just saying you have to be a fucking fool not to notice how racist the movie was against anyone who isn't White or Black.

Similarly you have to be full blown fucking retarded to view Machete as racist because every single character in the film actually had a personality.
Rather than resembling some kind of one dimensional borg like most republican themed films seem to always portray their enemies.

Here's a comment from that Bighollywood page that just boggles the mind
http://intensedebate.com/people/jacklarson1234

jacklarson1234 1p · 2 days ago
The film itself was simply an attack upon the American people disguised as entertainment. Much of the iconography and sloganeering coming from the side of the Mexicans is right out of reality, while the slogans and rhetoric coming from the Americans was intentionally distorted. For example, the Americans in the movie were depicted as racist brutes who view Mexicans as "cockroaches".

This movie also attacks the American woman directly. (Unless we are to believe that Lindsey Lohan is a typical American woman). The message here is: American women are decadent and amoral. This stood out in sharp contrast to how the Mexican women were portrayed: as tough, powerful, wise revolutionaries. The American (white) women were lazy and relied on servants for everything, while the Mexican women could all fight, cook, kill, and outsmart the government. (I should point out that the white American men were incestuous greedy pigs, as opposed to the honorable hard working immigrants who were being oppressed.)

The movie was solidly against the US Government, referred to as "The Boss." In context, a group of men who were beaten down with weed-whackers discussed whether or not to blame their attackers. They absurdly argued that they should "sympathize" with their attackers because it's not them, but "The Boss" who is the real problem. There was a constant use of peer pressure throughout the film which relates to this anti-government demagoguery. For instance, there is scene where two chefs, one Hispanic one White, are talking and the Hispanic states that he doesn't think the illegal immigrants should be granted amnesty. The White one calls the Hispanic a "p****" for not exhibiting racial loyalty to the illegal immigrants.

The message is clear: If you are a Hispanic American and you aren't in favor of illegal immigration for Mexicans, then you are a "p****."

The most ironic thing about the movie is that it elevates the drug cartels to a cool, "Sopranos"-esque kind of gangster clique, while presenting minutemen as immigrant murdering sociopaths. In fact, the head of the drug cartel commits an "honor suicide" at the end. (The last time I checked the headlines, it was the drug cartels who were butchering and oppressing the illegal immigrants. Where is the "honor" in that?)


Some apologists will call the film "exploitation" or "just a movie" and leave it at that. However, as anyone who has studied the history of propaganda and the public relations industry knows, there is no such thing as "just a movie" when we consider demographics, timing, and context. I firmly believe in the freedom of speech and gladly paid to see the film but I would be remiss if I didn't address what is probably the most blatant and gratuitous racial agit-prop since "Birth of a Nation":

Sopranos? What the fuck? The Mexican drug dealer was portrayed by Steven Seagal are you mothafuckas blind? If RR truly wanted to portray Mexican drug cartels as cool wouldn't he have you know? Cast an actual Mexican for the role as the drug baron instead of casting an overweight fat White man with a horrible Mexican accent?
I'm a fan of Steve Seagal, I love how he tortures his enemies instead of killing them in his movies. I'm just saying he's a fat Asian looking White dude. How the fuck is that supposed to glorify the Mexican drug cartels when he looks, acts & sounds nothing like a Mexican. That's actually part of the joke you fucking American republican retards!

Yes, Seagal's character does indeed commit harakiri but you have to be fucking out of your mind if you thought RR put that there to honour drug lords.
It's obvious that was a reference to Steven Seagal and how nobody ever kills him in a fair fight. He's only died two times in a movie. Once in an accidental fatality. Another time when he decided to comically kill himself out of nowhere just because hit with a minor bruise. (A machete stuck up his fat gut.)
If you haven't noticed, Steve Seagal is somewhat of an honorary Asian man in a White man body.
Even I would welcome Steve Seagal with open arms as an Asian if he ever claimed himself to be one.
Seagal truly does follow Asian norms & culture.
It's probably part of the reason why he's so fucking weird. He'd actually be normal if he were born an Asian.
Though he would never have become as popular as he was had he been an actual Asian so thank goodness for that. I just wonder what he thinks about his son Kentaro Segal who now runs Steve's dojo in LA. Kenataro fucking looks like Seagal's arch nemesis JEAN CLAUDE VANDAMME, lol.
http://www.myspace.com/tenshinclub
I would consider Kentaro & his sister as Asian too if they did.
Steven Seagal's duaghter Ayako looks very similar to the way people in my fam look.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0297858/
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LOL, I'll never understand why Japs are considered wannabe White when we usually do have White skin. My semi Whitish skin tone came from my Jap side as well since most of my Caucasian relatives are, well not as dark as Seagal but they're definitely darker than his daughter who most likely inherited her paleness from her Japside.

Oh look a reasonable viewpoint of Machete.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0985694/board/thread/170283413
So, I'm from Mexico, saw the film , liked it and i still like USA
by Second_Lives 21 hours ago (Wed Sep 8 2010 08:43:13)
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UPDATED Wed Sep 8 2010 08:44:15
So the whole kinda uprising of Mexicans goes out the window and the propoganda thingy of hating whitey does too...I saw the MOVIE as a MOVIE...nothing more and nothing less. Now critizing the film as Rodriguez fan and a film the movie does lose pacing halfway trough it....the climax at the end was all over the place and the ending was a letdown. However,the movie itself was filled with moments so worthy of being classics, the title sequence being one of them also the hospital scene. For every good moment in the movie there was a bad one such as Machete going over Fahey's house and getting jiggy with her wife and daughter although a classic and tremendous moment quite pointless. I may continue rambling but my point is this...this movie rocks!!!Not great, not perfect...but a solid rock em sock em mexplotation flick.

P.S. This film did not offend me... I laughed at all the jokes and the exagerated ideas I just went along with it. I do not understand why people take this all too seriously. I cannot imagine what must they be going trough with their lives to post such angry and racial comments.


PostalMonk 20 hours ago (Wed Sep 8 2010 11:25:54)
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Those who are offended by "Machete" are likely to be those who want to find offensive things in it.
There was something I found offensive in it, too, but nothing serious enough to bitch about. There are too many people in the world who are always looking for something to complain about. Maybe they look for offensive things in movies and on TV because they want to find meaning in their lives.

Yeah we knew this all along but it doesn't make these far right retards any less annoying. What's hilarious is that it's people like them who drive others away form the conservative mindset. (Considering that politically speaking, Machete would fall under Conservative Libertarianism more so than it would Liberalism. I honestly don't understand how the fuck people get that idea.)

Then again I'm reminded that Americans are a very peculiar breed of dumbass.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0985694/board/thread/170322766
Aren't Italians considered Hispanic?
by sonwitch101
Italians like Robert DeNiro, Ray Romano, the entire cast of Jersey Shore, ect. They don't look exactly white. A lot of them look short and dark, so they are not exactly anglo.

It always amazes me how Adolf Hitler was far less picky on who is or isn't White than most USA North Americans are. Or most likely he was just much more educated than your average American.

This will be my last post about Machete vs Far Right retards since I initially wanted to talk about the From Dusk Till Dawn series (I'm amazed that From Dusk Till Dawn 3 is almost as good as the first one. Second FDTD sucks ass.) but got carried away just wanting to voice my opinion about their wacky conspiracy shit.
I looked up the name of the man who writes all of this crazy shit and oh boy is he loony.
http://www.mcnblogs.com/thehotblog/archives/2010/05/nut_job_john_no.html
Nut Job John Nolte Confuses "The Black List" With The Untalented
Someone sent me a rather insane screed by this guy, John Nolte, who tries to keep right-wing hope alive at "Big Hollywood," Andrew Breitbart's silly site. ("Want to hear why the #2 box office film this week is going to get your daughter raped by Commies? Click Here!")


As I said once before, it must suck ass to be a far right extremist coz they're afraid of everything around them so they resort to making up random bullshit as a means to explain an already simplified event. Kinda like how they use the bible to console them of their cosmic fears that they can not comprehend.